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Gasser???


Started designs for the pop today!  First on the shopping list is a solid back axle...probably mk2 jag. I can keep rear wheels and prop then.


Then tube front axle..........shhhhhh Ive said to much!!!!



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Been looking at the Gasser thread on retro rides?? I never really properly understood or appreciated them until that thread. Look forward to seeing it! I'm eager to learn from all of you experienced ladsand lasses!

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ive not read that article. In the Uk we had the Ford Popular and the top of the range Anglia. These were little side valve powered cars. Small and great for UK roads.  ford decided that in the late '50s and early '60s that not everyone in the U.S. could afford or wanted a big yank tank with a V8 so they exported around 2500 cars to America badged as Anglias.  They didnt sell!!!  The Americans had been running 'Gassers' for a while and wanted something different to race.  The Anglia was the prime car but the wheel base was wrong.  After some negotiation the rules were changed and a new class was born....'Gasser Anglia'.  The look of these cars was a bit different to the normal gassers of the time.  if you go to images in msn or google ynd type anglia gasser, you get some good pics from the early days.

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I know what an anglia and a Popular is!!


I kinda understand the theory of a gasser as well. Usually higher up to get better weight transfer to the back wheels.



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SORRY TOM!!!!


I didnt mean to talk to you like you know nothing.


That was something my son wrote for a school project and I just cut and pasted it without reading it properly.




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Nay Worries lol.


Incidentaly i did go and put Anglia Gasser into google image


Certainly some good photies






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Nice, but not gassered enough for me.


This is more the look I want:




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Yup thats a proper gasser with tube front axle and up in the air stance. Love em they look great!!


What engine are you running/gunna run?



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1.9 turbo diesel, economy is more inportant than power.

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I don't believe that for a minute!


That'd make it as bad as a 1.1 saxo with a bodykit!!



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Its got a 318 Mopar V8 from a 70;s Dodge Police car in it at the moment.  I borrowed this from someone but have had so many problems with it, Ive been off the road all year!!


Im looking at staying with the 318 and tuning it heavily (it produces more torque standard than a 350 chevy or ford lump) or maybe play with the 383 big block I have in bits at the workshop!!



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Sweet! I'm imagining you've got a pretty custom chassis LOL

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wow kick back to the eighties. I remember that car revell rebel. Loved all those motors. Best we all do a trip to the drags next year when they have nostalgic drags and the gasser circus at the pod or shaky.


Si's pop will look the nuts when done. gasser is the new black



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Ive got me a set of front wheels!!!!


A bit on the wide side!


3 1/2 x 15




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Just found this and found it interesting:


The Ford Anglia: From pint-sized British Ford,
to the Gasser wars of the sixties,
to Pro Street of the nineties

By Dean Kirsten


Photos by Ford of England, Henry Ford Museum, Jere Alhadeff, John Shanks and the Anglia Obsolete Archives


It would seem that 1932 was a true banner year for the Ford Motor Corporation. Not only did the company produce what many feel is the finest lineup of cars ever built: the 1932 passenger car, it was also the year Ford began to build complete cars in Britian. But Henry Ford wasn't satisfied to simply open another factory overseas and assembly American-built automobiles, he authorized the design of an entire line of unique Ford products that was catered to the European market. One that needed a smaller version of the domestic Ford automobile. The new cars and trucks were based on a 933cc, 4-cylinder flat head engine mounted in a 90-inch wheelbase chassis. Anyone that would look at these early chassis today would easily see the resemblance to the Model A Ford - but in small scale. When the Ford Dagenham factory first opened and began to mass produce completed vehicles, center stage was set for all-new Model Y sedan, a rather small looking 1935 Ford tudor. The car was an instant success in Britian and well over 100,000 were produced with little change through 1937.



The Model Y's replacement would be the first generation that actually ressembed the Anglia that most of us are familiar with. In 1937, Dagenham released a new Ford Eight sedan, or sometimes refered to as a "7Y," still retaining the 933cc 4-cylinder engine and components of the past. A 1/4-ton van was also debuted in this configuration, first called a Fordson, later changed to Thames. The most noteable change in these vehicles came from being designed entirely in England, unlike the Model Y which was spearheaded in Dearborn, Michigan.



Along with the release of this new model, Ford of England also debuted a new longer wheelbase car known as the Ford Ten, or "7W" in some circles. This car boosted a larger bore engine (2-1/4-inch to 2-1/2-inch) for a total displacement of 1172cc. The Ten used a 94-inch wheelbase, while the Ford Eight stayed with the proven 90-inch stance. The Ten was available in both a 2-door, or 4-door configuration and was considered to be a more upscale car over the Eight. What is important about these two vehicles is that they set the stage for next twenty years of car and truck production. In 1939, the Ford Ten became the Ford Prefect and remained a 4-door sedan in similar styling up to 1954. In 1940, the Ford Eight became the Ford Anglia and when through several front end design changes up to 1954. Production of these vehicles came to a hault in 1941 due to the out break of the war and resumed once again in June of 1945.



In the spring of 1948, Ford began to import the Anglia, Prefect and Thames vans (1/4-ton and 1/2-ton versions) to the U.S. and Canada under the banner "North American Sales and Service" or N.A.S.S. They were sold at selected Ford dealers across North America right along side cars and trucks made in the states. These vehicles were modified slightly for the North American market, including making them left-hand drive, fitting the headlights with sealed beams, installing front park lights on the front fenders, fitting the larger 1172cc engine, and changing the front grille on the 1948 model Anglia and Thames to a 3-hole design - a one year only change.



What appeared to be a bright new segment for Foreign Fords in the North American auto market, may have turned out to be less than expected. On April 9,1948 Ford of Britian, exported the first of what was hoped to be thousands more cars and trucks. Its initial projections were that during the first year of sales, it planned on selling over 12,000 cars and trucks to the huge U.S. and Canadian market. Actual sales however, were just over 3500 for 1948. In early 1949, the suggested retail price was dropped almost 20% in an attempt to move inventory. Even when Ford dealers across the country priced new Anglias at a rock bottom price of only $947.22, and a new Thames panel at $812.75, sales were anything but brisk. In fact, Blue Book on a two-year old Anglia was only $250!



The American auto market was quickly changing and while at first, there was a huge demand for any type of new auto and truck, by the late forties, the domestic automobile manufacturers had released their first post-war designs. The buying public wanted more of everything - chrome, interior size, comfort, and big V-8 power, none of which were present in the British Fords. These pint-sized cars came equipped with mechanical brakes, wishbone suspension, wooden floors, a thermosyphen cooling system, circa 1930's!


So, for the next ten years, the Anglia, Prefect and Thames were also-rans in the automotive market. During this period, you could pick one up for a song, often less than $100. Wrecking yards from Los Angeles to New York would pile these forgotten autos up and crush them by the dozens because nobody wanted them. During the five year period that the most popular body style of Anglias were sold, 1948-1953, only about 25,000 cars and trucks were sold in all of North America. Today, only 2400 are known to exist in any shape or form.



If it wasn't for hot rodders in the mid-sixties modifying them and creating some level of interest, many feel that very few modern day examples would today, still exist. In 1961, NHRA's rules set the minimum wheelbase for a "gasser" at 94-inches. The rules also stated that the body must be of American manufacturer. Both of these rules combined blew any chance of a foreign car from entering the gas classes. In 1963, NHRA allowed foreign cars to compete in the gas classes even though they were under the 94-inch wheelbase minimum. The kicker was, they could only run a small block engine and no blowers were allowed. This opened the door for the 90-inch Anglia and Thames to join the gasser ranks. The demand for these less-than-desireable foreign cars was finally on the upswing.



For the next four years, the number of Anglia gassers gradually increased although the supercharged divisons were dominated by the Willys and Austin - both of which had a longer wheelbase. Only a few racer took a close enough look at the Prefect and realized that its 94-inch wheelbase would be legal for this class. One such car was the "Hurst's Gasser Passer," built and driven by "Ohio" George Montgomery. The car was successfully campigned prior to his moving to a '33 Willys powered by a 427 SOHC Ford engine.



NHRA stood fast on the minimum wheelbase restrictions until 1968, but over at AHRA-sanctioned strips, no such rules existed. This opened the door for local west coast tracks like Lions and Irwindale to schedule AA/GS meets on a regular schedule. These match races packed the stands, paid well and soon many of the former injected small block-powered cars, switched over to superchargers and did remarkably well.



In 1965, two of the most famous Anglia gassers ever built switched from the small block Chevy to the all-new 396/427 engine. The Shores & Hess Anglia, driven by Skip Hess was one of the first racers to obtain the new big block Chevy. With the addition of a 6.71 blower, the car entered the AA/GS ranks but only under the AHRA banner. Quickly there after, Ed and Ray Kohler of the "King Kong" Anglia fame made the move to a then-huge 454-cubic inch Chevy. With both cars now competing in the AA/GS ranks, the match race madness was in full swing.



When NHRA finally let the 90-inch wheelbase cars compete with all of the goodies, the number of Anglias and Thames went nuts. Look at the entry list for the 1967 NHRA Winternationals and count the number of Anglias entered in Modified Eliminator, it's staggering. Some of the famous cars than ran at many of the nationals included the BB/GAS Anglia of Bob Panella and manually shifted by Ken Dondero, the BB/GAS Blairs' Speed Shop Anglia driven by Phil Lukens, the BB/GAS Prefect of Steve Woods, Steve Korney's AA/GAS Goldfinger, Johnny Loper's A/GAS "Little Hoss," the A/GAS Anglia of Lutz 'N Lundberg, Stickel and Riffle's B/GASSer, the Kroona/Skarda/Sandberg's AA/GAS, and more.



These were but a few of the hundreds of Anglias, Prefects and Thames that quickly appeared on our nation's drag strips during the sixties and seventies. Their popularity as a wild, and sometimes out of control gasser quickly grew up to the point in time that late model bodies began to appear. This was a turning point for these cars once again and as the sleeker Mustang, Camaro and other domestic cars gained popularity, the Anglias, Willys and Austin began to dwindle in numbers.



Until the mid-seventies, the outlook for these cars ever surviving looked bleek. With the rise in street rod interest taking place, with the Anglia's drag racing history, low cost and light weight, rodders began to see potential in building street-legal cars. Since this time, the number of Anglias, Prefects and Thames panels has been on the rise. Of the 2400 or so now accounted for, 80% have been modified to some extent, the majority having a small block Chevy under the hood. The remaing 20% are still in stock condition and only 5% have been completely restored back to stock.


 


(Please do not copy these rare photos, and place them on other web sites. It took me too damn long to locate them!)



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I'm probably bing a bit ramdom, but here are a couple of Pop's from my collection:





Can't find any photo's of our neighbours Pop, totally orginal and hardly ever driven.



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Remember al,s gasser,old pops and anglias back down,front up,rise like a cutter through ice.


Go on you know it makes sense.(440 mopar big block,six pack,open headers,HEAVEN).



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HMMMMMM....I like you more every time you post!!!!!LOL


Im only running a small block Mopar at the moment, but I have a big block in bits in the workshop. I will run the small block for a while and see what happens. Ive got the tube front and the 3 1/2 x 15 wheels. not sure on front suspension yet.


 



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They are all nice Fi and Chucky is looking much better now, but none are gassers

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Had a 69 dodge charger with a 440 and 6 pack,went like sheeet off a shovel,christ knows what it would go like in a pop.:

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al's gasser yes i remember that car. first evermeet i went to a Santa Pod in 1978 al o'connor rolled the pop and totalled it but a collection around the track got loads of money to help a rebuild. I have heard Al is a fantastic gearbox builder. He used to have the motorhead logo on the boot lid


 



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in position and lined up. Waiting for the tube and spindles to come back from the engineers.  I thought the wheels were a bit modern, but they look good. Back axle is lined up but 4" narrower so going to change the rear arches.




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Looks like there's plenty of room for some fenderwell headers, painted white of course!!

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Sniper wrote:


Looks like there's plenty of room for some fenderwell headers, painted white of course!!



Yes i agree. Would fill that gap up nicely.


Looking good Si.



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I remember reading a feature about this car in mid eighties. they drove it on the street for a day. I remember them saying that they were on the motorway at about 60mph and a porsche came past and as they accelerated to catch it they popped a wheelie, thats class.




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I remember reading that, didn't they go to the pod and do a 10 sec run (or something like that) and then drive to the Chelsea cruise for the evening??

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Got some coming and if they dont fit, we will fabricate!!!!  will be getting a nice bug catcher to!!!!

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OOOOOOOH that looks good,bug catcher is a must.keep sending pics and enjoy your hols ,lucky sod.

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saw the pop at the workshop on saturday and the ride height is superb. could this be the age of the gasser????????????


join the queue!!



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Gassers never went away they just don,t come out to play as often.

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Latest pics:

New back axle

Floor and gearbox tunnel out ready for cage

Stripping the front end ready for new spindles etc

Tube arrives tomorrow so the cage should be in by sunday night



-- Edited by Mr POPular at 23:38, 2007-01-22

-- Edited by Mr POPular at 23:39, 2007-01-22

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Are you going to have ally door panels and dash?

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looking good si. need an extra pair of hands just give us a call. you gonna be on the road for the B-52 run?

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I needed to rewire the car at somepoint so have decided now is as good a time as any, so the dash and the whole loom have gone!!

Here are some pics from today:

Cage is now in.












New supports for bulkhead which give an extra 6" leg room


New gear box mounts


New engine mounts from under the chassis rail dropping engine and box by nearly 4" which gives a completely flat floor with no gearbox tunnel.


New floor,nearly in!



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All that work and your dice are still hanging!




Well done, looks good so far.

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You might wanna look here.

http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/featuredvehicles/0704rc_gasser_drag_racers/

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just bought a hurst shifter and a saturday night torque converter. tube back from the engineer...touch wood...next week. northants tyres sending a catalogue for my tyres. getting there

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hopefully it should be rawhide soon................






rollin rollin rollin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr POPular wrote:

just bought a hurst shifter and a saturday night torque converter. tube back from the engineer...touch wood...next week. northants tyres sending a catalogue for my tyres. getting there

steady on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you spending money ????????????? you'll have a turn...........



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been there, spent the money, had the turn , taking the tablets!!!!!!!!!!

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been there, spent the money, had the turn , taking the tablets!!!!!!!!!!

yer !!!! but thats not wasted money ????? at least you spent it on the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CHEVY POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Mr POPular wrote:

Started designs for the pop today!  First on the shopping list is a solid back axle...probably mk2 jag. I can keep rear wheels and prop then.


Then tube front axle..........shhhhhh Ive said to much!!!!



its probably just as interesting driving my standard one... ask mitch, he screamed like a girl all the way up the road, thats when his hair finally fell out! `ridiculous car`he said
i sold my `2 owner from new` pop tonight had it 13 years, sad really, end of an era, used to drive to hemsby in that,but no seat belts for baby seats so....... had to go.



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Couple more pics from the weekend;

New Bulk Head is in



and Chassis is now drilled!



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its probably just as interestingdriving my standard one... ask mitch, he screamed like a girl all the way up the road, thats when his hair finally fell out! `ridiculous car`he said i sold my `2 owner from new`pop tonight had it 13 years, sad really, end of an era, used to drive to hemsby in that,but no seat belts for baby seats so....... had to go.
Thats because he is a big girl!!!



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Mr POPular wrote:

Couple more pics from the weekend;

New Bulk Head is in



and Chassis is now drilled!




did you do that ??????????? or have you got metal worm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dagenham dustbins !!!!!ha.ha.biggrinbiggrin



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with the 8 1/2 tons of pig iron in your chassis you couldnt do that!! Dont worry I will weld the holes up to add weight so im heavier when we race, its only fair I give you a chance!!! Chav!!

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Mr POPular wrote:

with the 8 1/2 tons of pig iron in your chassis you couldnt do that!! Dont worry I will weld the holes up to add weight so im heavier when we race, its only fair I give you a chance!!! Chav!!

you don't need to add any weight into the dagenham dustbin !!!!!!!!!!!
the size of you will more than make up the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!slim biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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Is it a coincidence that the Vauxhall Nova, the biggest chav car in the Uk was built by the same company that owns Chavrolet? I think not. The only thing you can do my weeble wobble friend is junk the motor and borrow my 383 mopar. Its not built yet but will probably be more reliable as it is than yours!!!

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Mr POPular wrote:

Is it a coincidence that the Vauxhall Nova, the biggest chav car in the Uk was built by the same company that owns Chavrolet? I think not. The only thing you can do my weeble wobble friend is junk the motor and borrow my 383 mopar. Its not built yet but will probably be more reliable as it is than yours!!!




I would niether lower my standars, nor would i wish to fit an agricultural orientated excuse for an engine !!!!!!!!! the mopuuur would be better used as aboat anchor !!!!!!!!!!!

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I think you should just atach your plough to the poopular and stick to the  fields you village hick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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